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	<title>Comments on: Five Things You Thought You Knew About Sourdough</title>
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	<description>Notes from my kitchen, in which I bake bread and raise a few other matters</description>
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		<title>By: Ruth</title>
		<link>http://www.wildyeastblog.com/2008/04/22/sourdough-stories-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-47642</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 07:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this! To think I wandered around my property &#039;gathering&#039; wild yeasts as I madly stirred the flour and water for nothing - well not nothing I did get a kick out of it and I&#039;m sure it helped my eccentricity reputation. 

On a sidenote I&#039;d never even heard of San Francisco sourdough bread until now - but I don&#039;t live in the USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this! To think I wandered around my property &#8216;gathering&#8217; wild yeasts as I madly stirred the flour and water for nothing &#8211; well not nothing I did get a kick out of it and I&#8217;m sure it helped my eccentricity reputation. </p>
<p>On a sidenote I&#8217;d never even heard of San Francisco sourdough bread until now &#8211; but I don&#8217;t live in the USA.</p>
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		<title>By: Maryann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maryann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 20:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the great article. I made a starter for the first time and it was spot on. Absoulely awesome tasting bread. I have to admit I did credit living off the bay of San Francisco to the great flavor. I haven&#039;t made bread anywhere else, but I&#039;m sticking with that myth. What I really wanted to know, because it&#039;s really work to keep a starter alive, was why a 200 year old starter was better than a couple week old one. I started just making a new one every so often and your article justified my action. Thanks for the help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the great article. I made a starter for the first time and it was spot on. Absoulely awesome tasting bread. I have to admit I did credit living off the bay of San Francisco to the great flavor. I haven&#8217;t made bread anywhere else, but I&#8217;m sticking with that myth. What I really wanted to know, because it&#8217;s really work to keep a starter alive, was why a 200 year old starter was better than a couple week old one. I started just making a new one every so often and your article justified my action. Thanks for the help.</p>
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		<title>By: Der Bik</title>
		<link>http://www.wildyeastblog.com/2008/04/22/sourdough-stories-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-30179</link>
		<dc:creator>Der Bik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 05:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To: Susan and Whomever Else It May Concern
Re: A Mystery Sourdough Shout-Out from the Tropics

I live in an isolated, largely forgotten and therefore necessarily very provincial, corner of the Central American tropics.

We do not have what Americans might call &quot;ethnic&quot; food or &quot;health food&quot; stores here. We only rarely get a generic brand of tofu in one or two of our &quot;upscale&quot; supermarkets.

And so I was recently trying my hand at making seitan, or wheat gluten, the plausible meat-substitute used in many Asian vegetarian cuisines. I used a national brand of all-purpose flour (the only kind available) and kneaded it with commercial potable water (one doesn&#039;t cook with or drink the local tap water, or even use it for brushing one&#039;s teeth).

But I quickly tired of the kneading, and of the various changes of (expensive commercial potable) water. I had a squishy mass of what appeared to be gluten. I didn&#039;t want to fuss with it anymore. I covered it with potable water and left it in its clear plastic bucket atop the refrigerator. I figured I might be able to figure out something to do with it later.

The next morning I thought, &quot;Hey, maybe this can turn into bread dough.&quot; So, I poured off the murky water, added some commercial yeast mixed with warm water and a little raw cane-sugar to the mess, along with another cup of all-purpose flour. I put it atop the fridge again and waited to see what would happen.

Today I took a peek and the mess was all bubbly. I tasted it...and it tasted *exactly* like sourdough starter.

I mixed some more all-purpose flour into it and kneaded until it was rather firm enough to hold some shape, and baked it in a cast-iron dutch oven in an oven set at the highest heat.

Lo and behold, I turned out to have baked a loaf of amazingly tasty artisanal sourdough bread with a pleasantly sour bite and nice &quot;real bread&quot; bubbly web.

How on earth did this happen?

I don&#039;t know that I might replicate the recipe again.

Did the seitan-making process -- the separating starch from protein -- do some chemical magic? What role might it have played?

Mysteries abound.

More myths await being busted!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To: Susan and Whomever Else It May Concern<br />
Re: A Mystery Sourdough Shout-Out from the Tropics</p>
<p>I live in an isolated, largely forgotten and therefore necessarily very provincial, corner of the Central American tropics.</p>
<p>We do not have what Americans might call &#8220;ethnic&#8221; food or &#8220;health food&#8221; stores here. We only rarely get a generic brand of tofu in one or two of our &#8220;upscale&#8221; supermarkets.</p>
<p>And so I was recently trying my hand at making seitan, or wheat gluten, the plausible meat-substitute used in many Asian vegetarian cuisines. I used a national brand of all-purpose flour (the only kind available) and kneaded it with commercial potable water (one doesn&#8217;t cook with or drink the local tap water, or even use it for brushing one&#8217;s teeth).</p>
<p>But I quickly tired of the kneading, and of the various changes of (expensive commercial potable) water. I had a squishy mass of what appeared to be gluten. I didn&#8217;t want to fuss with it anymore. I covered it with potable water and left it in its clear plastic bucket atop the refrigerator. I figured I might be able to figure out something to do with it later.</p>
<p>The next morning I thought, &#8220;Hey, maybe this can turn into bread dough.&#8221; So, I poured off the murky water, added some commercial yeast mixed with warm water and a little raw cane-sugar to the mess, along with another cup of all-purpose flour. I put it atop the fridge again and waited to see what would happen.</p>
<p>Today I took a peek and the mess was all bubbly. I tasted it&#8230;and it tasted *exactly* like sourdough starter.</p>
<p>I mixed some more all-purpose flour into it and kneaded until it was rather firm enough to hold some shape, and baked it in a cast-iron dutch oven in an oven set at the highest heat.</p>
<p>Lo and behold, I turned out to have baked a loaf of amazingly tasty artisanal sourdough bread with a pleasantly sour bite and nice &#8220;real bread&#8221; bubbly web.</p>
<p>How on earth did this happen?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know that I might replicate the recipe again.</p>
<p>Did the seitan-making process &#8212; the separating starch from protein &#8212; do some chemical magic? What role might it have played?</p>
<p>Mysteries abound.</p>
<p>More myths await being busted!</p>
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		<title>By: Glen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 18:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, excellent article.  It seems to me that if you are constantly removing a percentage of starter and replenishing with flour that contains thousands of yeast cells, it is constantly being refreshed.  The only way to keep an original strain would be to feed with flour that has been sterilized and keep it in a sterile environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, excellent article.  It seems to me that if you are constantly removing a percentage of starter and replenishing with flour that contains thousands of yeast cells, it is constantly being refreshed.  The only way to keep an original strain would be to feed with flour that has been sterilized and keep it in a sterile environment.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 00:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent article.  I&#039;ve been reading a lot about sour dough, and this really filled in some blanks and dispelled some myths.

I grew up with what you called an heirloom starter.  It was literally over 100 years old and had a great family story to go with it.  Now that I&#039;m 35, many of the people who had it are either gone or let their starter die.  I was forced to make my own using a little pineapple juice and bread flour.

It took a while, but almost 2 weeks into it, my starter smells very sour and beer like and is about doubling in a few hours after feeding.  I&#039;m going to give it a whirl this week, and I&#039;m very excited.

Thanks again for this great information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article.  I&#8217;ve been reading a lot about sour dough, and this really filled in some blanks and dispelled some myths.</p>
<p>I grew up with what you called an heirloom starter.  It was literally over 100 years old and had a great family story to go with it.  Now that I&#8217;m 35, many of the people who had it are either gone or let their starter die.  I was forced to make my own using a little pineapple juice and bread flour.</p>
<p>It took a while, but almost 2 weeks into it, my starter smells very sour and beer like and is about doubling in a few hours after feeding.  I&#8217;m going to give it a whirl this week, and I&#8217;m very excited.</p>
<p>Thanks again for this great information.</p>
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