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	<title>Comments on: What&#8217;s Wrong With This Miche?</title>
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	<description>Notes from my kitchen, in which I bake bread and raise a few other matters</description>
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		<title>By: Thomas J. Webb</title>
		<link>http://www.wildyeastblog.com/2008/05/25/tap-water-works-fine/comment-page-1/#comment-19315</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas J. Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I more or less serendipitously discovered that tap water is fine for sourdough starters since I ran out of the machine water we use (not bottled water, but filling our water jug using those water machines they have in front of grocery stores).

Even if chlorine is a problem, you can always let the water sit for an hour or so and the chlorine will evaporate out since it has a lower vapor pressure than water. No doubt chlorine kills fungi, but if the levels are low enough, there shouldn&#039;t be an issue. And there&#039;s always home filters which take out the chlorine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I more or less serendipitously discovered that tap water is fine for sourdough starters since I ran out of the machine water we use (not bottled water, but filling our water jug using those water machines they have in front of grocery stores).</p>
<p>Even if chlorine is a problem, you can always let the water sit for an hour or so and the chlorine will evaporate out since it has a lower vapor pressure than water. No doubt chlorine kills fungi, but if the levels are low enough, there shouldn&#8217;t be an issue. And there&#8217;s always home filters which take out the chlorine.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabrielle</title>
		<link>http://www.wildyeastblog.com/2008/05/25/tap-water-works-fine/comment-page-1/#comment-13471</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabrielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 01:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our tap water is heavily chlorinated due illnesses that occurred when it was improperly managed with chlorine.

I have no trouble raising and maintaining starters on our tap water; I would never purchase a bottle of water that Nestle&#039;s takes from  the same aquifer that I drink from, 5 miles down the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our tap water is heavily chlorinated due illnesses that occurred when it was improperly managed with chlorine.</p>
<p>I have no trouble raising and maintaining starters on our tap water; I would never purchase a bottle of water that Nestle&#8217;s takes from  the same aquifer that I drink from, 5 miles down the road.</p>
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		<title>By: Los cutrexperimentos del lisensiado Gusete:1.- Agua &#171; Madrid Tiene Miga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Los cutrexperimentos del lisensiado Gusete:1.- Agua &#171; Madrid Tiene Miga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] tipo de tratamiento tiene cierta importancia. Hace ya algún tiempo Susan hablaba de ello en esta entrada, y a mí me ha dado por poseerme por mi alter ego pedante, Lisensiado Gusete, y dedicarme a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] tipo de tratamiento tiene cierta importancia. Hace ya algún tiempo Susan hablaba de ello en esta entrada, y a mí me ha dado por poseerme por mi alter ego pedante, Lisensiado Gusete, y dedicarme a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Los cutrexperimentos del lisensiado Gusete:1.- Agua &#124; Cocinar</title>
		<link>http://www.wildyeastblog.com/2008/05/25/tap-water-works-fine/comment-page-1/#comment-8726</link>
		<dc:creator>Los cutrexperimentos del lisensiado Gusete:1.- Agua &#124; Cocinar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 19:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] tipo de tratamiento tiene cierta importancia. Hace ya algún tiempo Susan hablaba de ello en esta entrada, y a mí me ha dado por poseerme por mi alter ego pedante, Lisensiado Gusete, y dedicarme a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] tipo de tratamiento tiene cierta importancia. Hace ya algún tiempo Susan hablaba de ello en esta entrada, y a mí me ha dado por poseerme por mi alter ego pedante, Lisensiado Gusete, y dedicarme a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.wildyeastblog.com/2008/05/25/tap-water-works-fine/comment-page-1/#comment-4565</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ummm...i recently made a bread starter...i believe it is right.  i used regular flour and tap water...it smells yeasty and has a frothy look.  i was wondering if anyone had a simple yeast roll recipe so i can test drive it.  i am having trouble finding recipies including a bread starter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ummm&#8230;i recently made a bread starter&#8230;i believe it is right.  i used regular flour and tap water&#8230;it smells yeasty and has a frothy look.  i was wondering if anyone had a simple yeast roll recipe so i can test drive it.  i am having trouble finding recipies including a bread starter</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
		<link>http://www.wildyeastblog.com/2008/05/25/tap-water-works-fine/comment-page-1/#comment-3585</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 03:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I brew beer using nothing but Texas lake, er, tap water filtered through a Pur filter (activated charcoal, ion-resin exchange, the usual) and the results are fantastic. No need for fancy bottled water. Use the stuff that comes cheap!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I brew beer using nothing but Texas lake, er, tap water filtered through a Pur filter (activated charcoal, ion-resin exchange, the usual) and the results are fantastic. No need for fancy bottled water. Use the stuff that comes cheap!</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://www.wildyeastblog.com/2008/05/25/tap-water-works-fine/comment-page-1/#comment-3517</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 18:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How remiss of me... I neglected to say what a beautiful looking miche!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How remiss of me&#8230; I neglected to say what a beautiful looking miche!</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 18:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had no idea that Toronto water also has chloramine in it until I read this post, Susan. I had assumed it was chlorine (just checked and see that chloramine is used). I&#039;ve been using filtered tap water (either brita or GE filter that is on our kitchen tap). In spite of still struggling with sourness in my starter, otherwise it&#039;s entirely active. (I would still be using unfiltered tap water if we hadn&#039;t seen the results of a water test last summer, showing that our tap water has too much lead at 15parts per billion. By Canada&#039;s standards, anything above 10 parts per billion is unacceptable - in USA, according to EPA website, anything above 15parts per billion is unacceptable.) But I don&#039;t think I would ever use bottled water over tap water here in North America. Too much plastic....

I also wonder if some bottled water isn&#039;t old. I was interested to see that Rose Levy Beranbaum in &#039;The Bread Bible&#039; writes: &quot;Make sure the water in the spritzer is fresh (it should not have been standing for more than 2 days).&quot; She doesn&#039;t say why this is necessary... so I did an internet search and came across some interesting information on &#039;Health Canada&#039;s Questions and Answers on Bottled Water&#039; www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/securit/facts-faits/faqs_bottle_water-eau_embouteillee_e.html
(see &quot;Are there bacteria in bottled water?&quot; and &quot;What is safe storage and use of bottled water?&quot;)

-Elizabeth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had no idea that Toronto water also has chloramine in it until I read this post, Susan. I had assumed it was chlorine (just checked and see that chloramine is used). I&#8217;ve been using filtered tap water (either brita or GE filter that is on our kitchen tap). In spite of still struggling with sourness in my starter, otherwise it&#8217;s entirely active. (I would still be using unfiltered tap water if we hadn&#8217;t seen the results of a water test last summer, showing that our tap water has too much lead at 15parts per billion. By Canada&#8217;s standards, anything above 10 parts per billion is unacceptable &#8211; in USA, according to EPA website, anything above 15parts per billion is unacceptable.) But I don&#8217;t think I would ever use bottled water over tap water here in North America. Too much plastic&#8230;.</p>
<p>I also wonder if some bottled water isn&#8217;t old. I was interested to see that Rose Levy Beranbaum in &#8216;The Bread Bible&#8217; writes: &#8220;Make sure the water in the spritzer is fresh (it should not have been standing for more than 2 days).&#8221; She doesn&#8217;t say why this is necessary&#8230; so I did an internet search and came across some interesting information on &#8216;Health Canada&#8217;s Questions and Answers on Bottled Water&#8217; <a href="http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/securit/facts-faits/faqs_bottle_water-eau_embouteillee_e.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/securit/facts-faits/faqs_bottle_water-eau_embouteillee_e.html</a><br />
(see &#8220;Are there bacteria in bottled water?&#8221; and &#8220;What is safe storage and use of bottled water?&#8221;)</p>
<p>-Elizabeth</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 01:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had been going to comment on the starter thread, but this is better:

Two weeks ago, I carefully followed your starter starting instructions (thanks BTW) and used tap water as I was anxious to get started ;) and didn&#039;t have any bottled handy.

After 4 days, I had a pretty good starter going -- good smell and OK lift -- my wife stocked us up on bottled water, so I figured I&#039;d stop risking my starter and switch.

Day 5 the starter didn&#039;t do so well, day 6 it was flat and day 7 it was dead.

Methinks there was more badstuff in the bottled water than in the tap.

Of course something else could have gone awry, but I&#039;m pretty careful (anal-retentive) in the way I go about cooking, so I don&#039;t think anything else changed.

Now I&#039;m restarting with tap water and won&#039;t be going near the bottle.

--Matthew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had been going to comment on the starter thread, but this is better:</p>
<p>Two weeks ago, I carefully followed your starter starting instructions (thanks BTW) and used tap water as I was anxious to get started <img src='http://www.wildyeastblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  and didn&#8217;t have any bottled handy.</p>
<p>After 4 days, I had a pretty good starter going &#8212; good smell and OK lift &#8212; my wife stocked us up on bottled water, so I figured I&#8217;d stop risking my starter and switch.</p>
<p>Day 5 the starter didn&#8217;t do so well, day 6 it was flat and day 7 it was dead.</p>
<p>Methinks there was more badstuff in the bottled water than in the tap.</p>
<p>Of course something else could have gone awry, but I&#8217;m pretty careful (anal-retentive) in the way I go about cooking, so I don&#8217;t think anything else changed.</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m restarting with tap water and won&#8217;t be going near the bottle.</p>
<p>&#8211;Matthew</p>
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		<title>By: dhanggit</title>
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		<dc:creator>dhanggit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 17:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your miche is absolutely perfect!! thanks for doing these experiments on water and making bread.  i just normally use tap water :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your miche is absolutely perfect!! thanks for doing these experiments on water and making bread.  i just normally use tap water <img src='http://www.wildyeastblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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